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trust or not?
Trust the "Elders" and give away all artefacts now 56%  56%  [ 9 ]
"Elders" has come to town and search solutions with us 38%  38%  [ 6 ]
Never gives away, Arindals search allone for solutions 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
A fat lot I care! ;) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 16
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 Post subject: Democracy Now!
PostPosted: 25. January 2010 11:23 
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We have to find a decision ...

Your voice for one vote, what can we do!
Yesterday happens:
Quote:
Teboor fragt, "Did you find anything?"
Rion Taur'ar zeigt allen sein Mondbuch.
Teboor sagt, "Oh"
Ariel zeigt allen ihren Bücherstapel.
Rion Taur'ar zeigt allen sein Pergament.
Frenzymac sagt, "Hello Teboor"
Ariel fragt, "do we give them to thee, Teboor?"
Teboor sagt, "This looks interessting"
Teboor sagt, "Yes"
Teboor sagt, "I need to have a look at them"
Rion Taur'ar lässt ein Pergament fallen.
Teboor sagt, "Thanks"
Rion Taur'ar lässt ein Mondbuch fallen.
Teboor sagt, "Don't drop them"
Teboor findet ein Pergament!
Teboor findet ein Mondbuch!
Teboor ruft, "They might get destroyed!"
Teboor sagt, "Thanks"
(Ariel smiles)
(Godzilla smiles)
(Teboor examines the moon book)
Teboor sagt, "Very old book"
Godzilla sagt, "Sweet"
Teboor sagt, "and a very dangerous one"
Leyenda sagt, "even better"
(Godzilla grins)
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "then i want it back"
Teboor sagt, "No"
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "i like dangerous things"
Rion Taur'ar ruft, "give it back!"
Teboor sagt, "This book should be kept hidden somewhere"
Teboor sagt, "The knowledge in this book might destroy hole worlds"
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "i like Frenzy too and he is also dangerous+"
(Godzilla grins)
(Godzilla grins)
(Teboor looks at the scroll)
Leyenda fragt, "and how do we know you ain't gonna use it?"
Lafaborn sagt, "holla Teebor"
Godzilla grübelt, "get the book back"
Godzilla sagt, "Yea"
Teboor sagt, "The scroll is about crystals and gems"
(Godzilla smiles)
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "book is safly in our hands"
Frenzymac sagt, "hey, nice i have also such a scrool :)"
Teboor sagt, "you know that the magic of our world is stored in crystals"
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "look at the BIG Frenzy he protect it well"
Falk zeigt seinen Tanzanit Teboor.
Kong sagt, "ahhh they gunna steal all the crystals agian"
Frenzymac grübelt, "crystals :)"
Teboor sagt, "Oh"
Teboor fragt, "Where did you find it?"
Mordor zeigt sein Fledermausbuch Teboor.
(Falk hands over the gem).
Teboor mampft die paar Datteln und fühlt sich gesund.
Ariel sagt, "the gem twas found in Gorillas"
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "Mordor gib Dein Buch nicht so einfach weg"
Teboor fragt, "More books?"
Frenzymac sagt, "Mins is from niamph camp"
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "kriegst nicht wieder"
Falk sagt, "will shortly pick up newt"
Ariel sagt, "I gave them to thee"
(Balaforn waves)
Teboor fragt, "Can I have a look at it?"
Mordor fragt, "will i get it back?"
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "look means show him"
Falk grübelt, "i hope we can trust him"
Ariel sagt, "I gave to thee the Pile of Books"
Teboor sagt, "I can't promise you that I can give it back to you"
Mordor zeigt sein Fledermausbuch Teboor.
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "i will the moonbook back first"
Kong sagt, "keep the book :D"
Teboor sagt, "Oh"
Teboor sagt, "Sorry, I didn't notice you Frenzymac"
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "all books in one hand can be dangerous"
Iforeldur grübelt, "hah"
Teboor sagt, "I wont keep them"
Godzilla sagt, "We dont want the world to end"
Frenzymac sagt, "Read it, maybe you get some infos on crystals :-)"
Teboor sagt, "Another scroll"
Balaforn sagt, "holla Teebor"
Teboor sagt, "I can't read those runes on your scroll"
Teboor sagt, "The elders will have to examine it."
Frenzymac sagt, "ok"
Teboor fragt, "So where did you find the enemy?"
Godzilla sagt, "...."
(Rion Taur'ar looks to the sky)
Balaforn sagt, "all over the lands"
Frenzymac sagt, "Today in Aroona"
Teboor fragt, "Aroona?"
Teboor sagt, "Hmm"
Mordor sagt, "last time at gorillas"
Balaforn sagt, "few days ago in gorilla"
Teboor fragt, "Did you find more than this group?"
Frenzymac sagt, "West of here behind the beach"
Teboor fragt, "In Gorillas?"
Ariel sagt, "the first group we found twas in Niamph"
Ariel sagt, "the first group we found twas in Groillas"
Teboor fragt, "What kind of beasts where there?"
Newt fragt, "..>Gorillas?"
Ariel sagt, "Gorillas"
Falk sagt, "stormcasters"
Ariel sagt, "beetles"
(Balaforn memory is not hte best)
Teboor sagt, "Ah"
Falk sagt, "pirates"
Mordor sagt, "Onas"
Leyenda sagt, "firescarabs"
Teboor fragt, "beetles?"
Falk sagt, "yes"
Mordor sagt, "yes"
(Ariel nods)
Teboor fragt, "Onas?"
Falk sagt, "firebugs"
Rion Taur'ar grübelt, "bugs"
(Ariel nods vigorously)
Leyenda sagt, "yup"
Teboor fragt, "So mostly insects?"
Mordor sagt, "yes"
Ariel sagt, "verily"
Teboor sagt, "Hmmm"
Falk sagt, "but also Pirates"
Mordor sagt, "and orgas"
Iforeldur grübelt, "..fast wäre ich eingeschlafen."
Teboor sagt, "Sounds like a group that reports to Dor'Escara"
Falk grübelt, "not many Orgas"
Mordor grübelt, "some"
Leyenda sagt, "great another dor'"
Teboor fragt, "Pirates and Orgas?"
Mordor sagt, "few"
Falk sagt, "at least Orga Statues and Huts"
Newt grübelt, "still waiting for Ari'Dor"
Teboor sagt, "I think the slaves of Dor'Shak help the others"
Iforeldur grübelt, "Others?"
(Newt looks suspiciously at Mor'Dor)
Teboor sagt, "The Orgas carry things and build the huts"
(Mordor smiles)
Falk fragt, "do we have to re-visit Dor Shaks Lab?"
Mordor grübelt, "maybe i'm the evil"
Teboor sagt, "and the pirats do the scouting"
Rion Taur'ar fragt, "and any news?"
Teboor sagt, "I don't think that he will be where he was defeated once"
Teboor sagt, "We have to examine the artefacts you've brought"
Falk grübelt, "he is superstitious"
(Ariel nods)
Balaforn grübelt, "oh my, another crazy master"
Teboor sagt, "This will hopefully give us an idea what they are planning"
Godzilla grübelt, "y is everyone so trust worthy of this Teboor never seen him before he could be lieing!"
Teboor sagt, "but we have found strange beasts all over the land"
Mordor grübelt, "ob ich ihm das buch geben soll?"
Teboor sagt, "and the book you've brought"
(Ariel smiles)
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "wel my reason why it is better in our hands"
Teboor sagt, "I think they want to play with energies they can't control"
Teboor sagt, "I can give the book to you, if you want"
(Godzilla nods)
Falk sagt, "can"
Falk fragt, "can't the elders come here?"
Teboor fragt, "Can you read what is writen in there?"
Falk sagt, "and have a look at the books with us"
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "better we have the book and if the elders are interested can come in our libary"
(Godzilla nods)
Teboor sagt, "The elders leave their place very seldom"
Kong sagt, "well they should"
Falk sagt, "well i think this time it might be worth a trip"
Ariel sagt, "Tis nobetter time than in our hour of need"
Teboor sagt, "I remember what happened last time when we defended the Arindal"
Teboor sagt, "and I know why you don't trust me"
Kong sagt, "me too"
Teboor sagt, "I can give you the book"
Godzilla sagt, "SO why trust you now"
Teboor sagt, "but we will loose time then"
Rion Taur'ar fragt, "and ? last time we gives all for "helpers" and now we do the same?"
Ariel sagt, "please let Teboor keep it"
Godzilla sagt, "No way"
Godzilla sagt, ":P"
Rion Taur'ar fragt, "all books?"
• Teboor bietet dir ein Mondbuch für umsonst an.
Zum annehmen: \BUY 0 Teboor.
Falk sagt, "but what to do with those stuff then? we don't know what to do with it"
Teboor sagt, "Take it"
Teboor reicht dir ein Mondbuch.
Iforeldur sagt, "Well, patience is a greatness.."
Ariel sagt, "I beg thee, let Teboor keep it"
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "one book at time"
Godzilla sagt, "In time we will find out what to do with these books"
Teboor sagt, "Take good care of the book"
Mordor fragt, "You want to have a look in my book?"
Teboor sagt, "and lets hope that it isn't too late"
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "you have the choise for the batbook or moonbook at first"
Godzilla sagt, "LIES"
Godzilla sagt, "All lies"
(Godzilla grins)
Rion Taur'ar sagt, "not very cooperative"
Newt ruft, "FLIES! All flies!"


My private opinion you can find in a public letter here >http://www.dickner.de/Arindal/index.html

Cu soon Rion

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 Post subject: Re: Democracy Now!
PostPosted: 25. January 2010 12:46 
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I voted for "trust them" even if I don't really trust them...

The reason why I made this decission is that we do not have any other option...
Our mages can't read the books anyway and the only one who can give us some more information and so is Teebor (or is there anyone else? I don't expect Apples, Appla or Ugh to be a great help there).

Also this story ( viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3045&hilit=Teebor ) shows that Teebor is a friendy person who is not interested in our failure...

OOC: We shouldn't be so doubtful just because of the background story at the start of commercial. If we stay IC our heroes do not know about what happened, do they?
Well Teebor also mentioned that in his sentence "I remember what happened last time when we defended the Arindal" - but in my eyes those things should not influence our decisions as we always tried to help those people talking with us in tc or seeked for their help.
If we reject the workflow of this endquest - what will we achieve? The illusion that we could stay in Arilon instead of having to move to puddleby?
Sure we can doubt in Teebor and the Elders - but didn't the Elders give help/hints when we tried to defeat Dor'shak?


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 Post subject: Re: Democracy Now!
PostPosted: 25. January 2010 13:26 
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Falk wrote:
If we reject the workflow of this endquest - what will we achieve? The illusion that we could stay in Arilon instead of having to move to puddleby?


Who said anything about it? No one wants to reject the Endquest, but is he a one way street? Nothing to change? Completely rigid and inflexible? (like an PC - installed game)

OOC: We all knows the end will coming ... but without our own input? Only play a hard written story? No surprises? Not my way sorry ...

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 Post subject: Re: Democracy Now!
PostPosted: 26. January 2010 19:13 
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How about we give Teboor one item at a time and when he is done with everything we go to the elders town or they visit us or something.

I gotta say though, my experiences in such situations is that everyone has his/her own opinion and people can get really overwhelmed by that. Maybe for the meeting (if we get one) everyone can come and watch, but we elect 2 or 3 speakers that do all the talking. And when you have an idea you sunstone it to them.

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 Post subject: Re: Democracy Now!
PostPosted: 26. January 2010 23:20 
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1/26/10 10:15:30p Simin Hur grübelt, "Hmm... Das Wandern ist des Piratens Lust..."


He never said something like that before...

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 Post subject: Re: Democracy Now!
PostPosted: 31. January 2010 21:17 
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Quote:
Irina denkt, "I feel so weak, is anyone out there?"
Griop denkt, "Irina? You need help?"
Leyenda denkt, "yes where are you?"
Irina denkt, "... too .... weak...."
Leyenda denkt, "try us to tell where you are so we can possibly get you"
Tofor schreit, "Over here !!"
Ziyal denkt, "it's .. dark here... they are playing dices all the time"
Irina denkt, "free me...can help...you"


Please people help us to free Irina!
What is trustful help ...

Cu soon ... Rion

:lol: by the way ... i hope Ziyals *think* was a hint ... OOC i think it was a Irina *think* too :wink: ... now anyone knows dice playing people in blooddungeon or other places? OK OK i mean not Tarra!


:!: any time (1 hour?) later:
Quote:
Irina denkt, "I ... need"
Ariel ruft, "look!"
Irina denkt, "cure"

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 Post subject: Re: Democracy Now!
PostPosted: 1. February 2010 10:16 
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ends with only 14 votes :cry:

:arrow: http://www.arindal.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3047&p=29879#p29879

Result and decision in these post.

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 Post subject: Re: Democracy Now!
PostPosted: 2. February 2010 12:32 
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Grave Digger wrote:
... now anyone knows dice playing people in blooddungeon or other places? OK OK i mean not Tarra!


Wiki Waki Woo. Pirates love gambling. Maybe she was moved from blood dungeons to pirate cave? Has anybody been there lately?

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